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Date: 6 Nov 1997 16:45:37 GMT
From: jeffery@cs.utsa.edu (Clinton Jeffery)
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Reply-To: jeffery@cs.utsa.edu
Subject: Re: Graphics suggestion
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Anders Holtsberg (andersh@maths.lth.se) wrote:
: I'm thinking of two small projects that I want... under UNIX, Win32 and Mac.
: Now, Icon is one very good way to
: go for me if it weren't for graphic support lacking.
Presently we support graphics on UNIX and Win32. We would love to support
the Mac, and hope to some day, but this sort of thing is done by volunteers
from the user community. We have a substantial start, to about an
alpha-test level, but so for no one with sufficient Mac expertise has
stepped in and completed the job.
: Now a straight question to you developers: Can't you use e g vxWindows
: cross platform library directly when developping Icon? Then it would run
: on a bunch of platforms with rather minimal changes in source code, i e
: no extra job for you! It would be great to have graphics on all platforms!
Gee, it sure would! Why don't you write it? This would be a HUGE "extra
job" for us! We don't know vxwindows! Never heard of it! Is it public
domain? Is it a heavily-used and industrially-supported library with its
own web site, newsgroup, and so forth? Is it a de facto standard for
developing applications on each platform?
Really, we would have loved a suitable cross-platform library when we
started implementing Icon's graphics, but it didn't exist back then. If it
exists now, it isn't obvious to me. I've seen mostly expensive commercial
cross-platform libraries; the few freeware products that might do the job
haven't become widely adopted enough to give confidence. Java is starting
to come close, and it would be cool if the Java implementation of Icon
supported graphics, but I don't expect that to happen any time soon.
So, Anders, why don't you implement a vxwindows-based version of Icon? I'll
be glad to provide advice and assistance with testing it, and I have a
technical report on the graphics facilities implementation for you to read.
:-)
--
Clint Jeffery, jeffery@cs.utsa.edu
Division of Computer Science, The University of Texas at San Antonio
Research http://www.cs.utsa.edu/research/plss.html